Zalamero's first litter, eleven pups...question for breeders

[Bonnie Dawn]

She has eleven pups, the males seem to be growing faster. Is this normal? She whelped fine, pups are nice and quiet after feeding, she is a good mom and let's us (me and the kids) handle the pups. Do male pups get bigger faster? They were all born the same conform size and shape.

Thanks!

Bonnie

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[aceoutdoor]

Beautiful litter. Look at the mug on the guy on the bottom pic, puts a smile on my face.

[Bonnie Dawn]

Thank you very much :) I love that pup, I call him meat ball, he is one of her "fat boys!" She won't let me remove any of the fat boys without following me, I guess they are her favorite as well. And when I put them back with her, she counts them. Once they are all there, she quits looking. Smart dog...it makes me happy.

Bonnie

[Brasileirokid]

No. Males dont get bigger faster than females at that age..on both my litters the biggest happened to be a female at very early puppy stages. it really all has to do with which ones are getting the teets with the best flow of milk.. you will notice how they jockey for the good ones and the smaller pups always end up on the same ones...take the bigger pups out of the way and switch in the smaller pups to make sure they all get equal shares.

[bigd1622]

Wow great looking pups? are they pure black or they have some stripes? Its great that the mother takes such good care of the pups. I dont plan on breeding my male but i am dying to watch a puppy grow from day one. Are you going to keep any of them?

[Bonnie Dawn]

I was switching them out, but wasn't making sure they got the best flow of milk teat.

Thank you Juan...

Bonnie


No. Males dont get bigger faster than females at that age..on both my litters the biggest happened to be a female at very early puppy stages. it really all has to do with which ones are getting the teets with the best flow of milk.. you will notice how they jockey for the good ones and the smaller pups always end up on the same ones...take the bigger pups out of the way and switch in the smaller pups to make sure they all get equal shares.

[Bonnie Dawn]

Thank you! :) I am thinking of keeping a fawn female...but that black male has my eye. I can't tell yet if he will be a black brindle, I see the stripes as well and they don't all have them. This is my first litter so not sure when the color comes in to tell if he is a black brindle. I fed her mainly a raw diet, lots and lots of eggs, cow liver, cow heart, many bones, beef and some goat. I am really happy with the results. They look so much better when fed raw. She recovered really quickly, back to herself about the second day and the pups all had her same shiny coat. I like that diet!

[Paul]

AAAWWWWW, they are bundles of joy. Nice pups for sure. If you plan on breeding in the future it is good to keep a written record of these pups and then you can compare that to the next litter. They do need lots of attention at this age. Enjoy Enjoy Enjoy Hope they all end up healthy and happy. Thanks for sharing. Puppies tend to brighten my day.

[Bonnie Dawn]

Yes, we are using our extra goats record keeping book, perfect layout with notes ...I haven't slept much. Every peep or squeak wakes me up, but it is very much all worthwhile. Several years preparation and it is finally here!

Thank you!

[Bonnie Dawn]

Growing like crazy, I can't believe how fast they get big. Puppy breath almost here! :)

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[Brasileirokid]

yLike Paul said it is very good to keep records to compare and also to make sure everyone is growing at same rate (not necessarily same size). Let's say one gained 6 ounces and another only gained 2 ounces in a set period of time...you now know which one has to go to the best flowing one or maybe look a lil further to see if something may be wrong. a cheap produce scale should do the trick if you dont have one. A baby cam kept me and the wife from coming to "the rescue" every couple of hours while we slept. hear a noise, count the pups on the screen, all there? good, back to sleep, lol.

[Bonnie Dawn]

I just got a postage scale and will be getting weights this evening. I have no baby cam though! :) I am sleeping right next to them, she doesn't appreciate Glen (she never did like men, she likes Glen and won't bite him, but I sense that with pups she is a little more on edge so I am with pups and he is safe in our own room) Doesn't make for the best sleep in the world, but better safe than sorry.

I am counting pups as well, just a little closer! Thanks again....:)


yLike Paul said it is very good to keep records to compare and also to make sure everyone is growing at same rate (not necessarily same size). Let's say one gained 6 ounces and another only gained 2 ounces in a set period of time...you now know which one has to go to the best flowing one or maybe look a lil further to see if something may be wrong. a cheap produce scale should do the trick if you dont have one. A baby cam kept me and the wife from coming to "the rescue" every couple of hours while we slept. hear a noise, count the pups on the screen, all there? good, back to sleep, lol.

[Brasileirokid]

no problem and good luck with the litter, they look very healthy.

[de la Luna]

Bonnie,

Congratulations! We have had the whelping box next to our bed for our two litters also for the first weeks :) http://www.delalunakennel.com/available/ This link shows our set up! Every snuffle and squeek cause us to wake also, I actually sleep with my head at the foot of the bed so I can open my eyes and see them (how silly is that!) Our girls are more infatuated with my husband than 'Mrs. Disiplinary Me', the boys are reverse and I'm the goddess. Best wishes for everything going well with you all.

Best,


I just got a postage scale and will be getting weights this evening. I have no baby cam though! :) I am sleeping right next to them, she doesn't appreciate Glen (she never did like men, she likes Glen and won't bite him, but I sense that with pups she is a little more on edge so I am with pups and he is safe in our own room) Doesn't make for the best sleep in the world, but better safe than sorry.

I am counting pups as well, just a little closer! Thanks again....:)

[Bonnie Dawn]

Yes, I have heard a lot of good things about you and your dogs. Love the whelping box, I think you wrote somewhere that your husband made it for you, it is a great set up.

Yes, I am the 'Mrs Discipline' in our house as well. Nina is the only one who doesn't trust men, I got her at 4 months and she came either hard wired for it, or had an incident at some point. She likes him a lot, but is a bit wary and I just felt that with pups and it being her first litter I would just make sure. It was just the first few days, she is much better now.

(I think I will see if Glen feels like building a whelping box! What fun!)

Thank you!
Bonnie


Bonnie,

Congratulations! We have had the whelping box next to our bed for our two litters also for the first weeks :) http://www.delalunakennel.com/available/ This link shows our set up! Every snuffle and squeek cause us to wake also, I actually sleep with my head at the foot of the bed so I can open my eyes and see them (how silly is that!) Our girls are more infatuated with my husband than 'Mrs. Disiplinary Me', the boys are reverse and I'm the goddess. Best wishes for everything going well with you all.

Best,

[deidei]

Congratulations on your first litter.

[Bonnie Dawn]

They are eating their first meal today, howling for more...I am going to be very busy I can see...

Thanks a lot!

Bonnie


Congratulations on your first litter.